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Layla ([personal profile] layla) wrote2013-01-28 09:21 pm

Worldbuilding Blogfest #2: History & Politics

Still no Internet at home … aargh. Obviously this is going to make it slow to reply to comments. Bear with me. :)

Also, for anyone coming in via links from elsewhere, I have anonymous commenting turned off on the WordPress blog because of the spampocalypse. However, all these posts are crossposted to my Livejournal account, where I do have anon commenting turned on! Anyway, on to Day 2.

Day 1: Geography & Climateon WordPress | on Livejournal | on Dreamwidth
Day 2: History & Politicson WordPress | on Livejournal | on Dreamwidth

Karamanda: Political Overview

The city has an interesting, uneasy push-pull between the elected government who run its day-to-day workings, and the Angels who are the ceremonial and religious leaders.

The exact history of how things came to be this way is something that I’m still working out. The Angels are a different species, though they look very similar — the main visible differences are the color of the wings and a slightly different bone structure that’s especially visible on the face. (Think dogs and foxes, perhaps.) They’re more suited to the warm lowlands, but have come to rule the considerably more numerous mezzano, who hold them in religious regard. I don’t mean that they worship them (they don’t), but the Angels are considered holy and, to a certain extent, untouchable up in their high aeries. In the past, the Angels took a much more active role in running the city. Their political power has slowly slipped to the point where nearly all the political decisions are now made by a council that’s elected from the city’s twelve districts. (The city is divided like sections of a pie, as viewed from above, though in practice the district boundaries are wobbly and fuzzy and not at all clear.) Most mezzano can vote; no one else can, including the Angels. However, the Angels have their own internal government, their own police force, and their own process for punishing lawbreakers; they are not bound by mezzano laws; the two parts of the city (the aeries, and the lower levels) operate as nearly independent political entities.

Franza, the narrator in the Karamanda stories, is part of Karamanda’s mezzano police force. In “Angelcutters”, the murder of an Angel forces her to work with the Angels’ internal police force, the Silver Guard. From the story:

I had never dealt closely with the Angels’ secret police before. He wore a black mask and gloves, and voluminous white robes, with his silver wings folded behind him. He could have been old or young, fat or thin. I knew that he was male only from his deep, resonant voice.

Kae looked terrified, poor kid. He’d probably heard the same stories I had–that the Silver Guard made their own laws, that they had only to point and you’d be taken away. Normally they dealt with the Angels’ internal affairs, rarely venturing down to the levels of the city occupied by my own caste, the gray-winged mezzano who made up the bulk of Karamanda’s population. I didn’t feel easy myself. This was Silver Guard business, and those of us in Saskia’s office were the only people who knew about the body.


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[personal profile] schneefink 2013-01-29 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I know you can't answer many comments right now, but still, questions!

I'm curious how the situation came to be, of course, which you said you don't know exactly yet.
Are the Angels still interested in having political power over the mezzano? That would make the situation more unstable. Obviously there must have been some mezzano movements to gaining political power in the past.

How closely connected are the aeries and the lower levels (and the ground levels) economically? Obviously there must be some connections - it seems to me that the higher levels would likely be more dependent on goods from below, like food etc., than the other way around, which might be an implicit bargaining chip in power struggles; and where does the water come from? Do the Angels usually only fly in the higher levels?

So the people on the ground in the slums can't vote. Are they organized in any way, are they interested in gaining more power? Do they look up to the winged people? Are they just written off as slums or are they considered trading partners?

What about political ties with the surrounding region? Are there other cities with winged people? What is their relationship with the farmlands who provide their food?

Now I'm very curious about the upcoming chapter about religion.
Tip: If you link back to the chapters you already did it's easier to follow :)
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[personal profile] schneefink 2013-01-30 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, with islands it's much easier to see how the mezzano and Angels came from different places. The Angels could have been warriors initially who took over the island, then took on the role as priests to establish their rule and eventually have mostly lost the warrior-aspect. (Except the Silver Guard? Good introductory world-establishing in that snippet, btw.)

So the footbound are composed of two groups: Karamandans who lost their ability to fly for some reason and wingless immigrants. That could lead to tension and/or interesting alliances :) Yes, the voting system could be interesting (is there a reason why you want a democracy instead of, say, an aristocracy?) There could be some sort of in-between council between the footbound and the mezzano council, formal or informal? Upward mobility could be "only" wealth and not political power, and some who lost their wings could still be in contact with their families, depending on how strong the stigma attached to losing one's wings is. It'd be a class system within the footbound, even more interesting and even more possibilities for conflict ;)
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[personal profile] schneefink 2013-01-31 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
This sounds beautiful! :D

Obviously I have many questions *g*, but you probably need more time to figure this out, since it changed so much from where you started. I'm really looking forward to what you come up with!

I get your point about democracy, but I've rarely seen it done well in fantasy. A merchants' council sounds great, but how do you get from that to general democracy? A guild council system or something that comes close to a democratic system could develop over time, but democracy as we have it today, with everyone having one vote, is difficult to achieve, especially if you have a caste system on top of it. Although for some reason I can imagine it more easily for the Greek island setting than for the mountain city setting, so part of that is probably my expectations from history ;)